政府響2002年又話要提升服務質素,所以希望有競爭
而家無左競爭,咁如何可透過競爭去提升服務質素呢?
不過報紙寫投訴+建議既數字又真係有少少問題
但係大家都睇到今年既故障的確係多左
雖然報紙係有點誤導市民
但是事實上,故障的確係多左,服務質素的確係差左
原帖由 KZ9314 於 2008-12-31 04:10 PM 發表 
終於有得證明兩鐵合併後,服務真的差過從前。
政府響2002年又話要提升服務質素,所以希望有競爭
而家無左競爭,咁如何可透過競爭去提升服務質素呢?
不過報紙寫投訴+建議既數字又真係有少少問題
但係大家都睇到 ...
之前都有人講過,九鐵故障又多,地鐵故障又多,合併咗做港鐵全部故障都關港鐵事當然感覺多好多
如果真係有競爭,又唔見九廣鐵路會改善佢啲非收費區安排(馬鐵)?又唔見佢會改善下九廣東鐵啲設備?有競爭,唔見得以前九廣鐵路地鐵有乜野進步,反而見到既係大灑金錢興建荃灣西、柯士甸、尖東呢類又有又無用既車站。
話人之前攞啲 relevant 既證據,唔好再用啲咩競爭之類既野去鬧,呢啲原因理由呢一年見過十幾廿萬次。
[ 本帖最後由 bananasims 於 2008-12-31 04:36 PM 編輯 ]
唔知你去過九龍塘北面大堂通道未?近排裝修過晒,光好多已經係好好既改善
到紅磡,紅磡而家光幾多?以前幾暗?紅磡作為香港既直通車總站,地位同機場差唔多,九鐵就整到乜花樣?月台暗大堂細,新翼都係咁。仲有,紅磡新翼舊翼又斷開做乜?呢啲咁既站點見得人?紅磡個樣連石硤尾啲站都不如。
貼花紙唔係一個好既改善咩?至少,我陣係見到個花紙已經覺得個站光鮮好多,雖然個站依然好差。
[ 本帖最後由 bananasims 於 2008-12-31 04:55 PM 編輯 ]
原帖由 bananasims 於 2008-12-31 04:50 PM 發表
我唔係話尖東無用,我係話尖東個站咁鬼大有鬼用,仲有起到咁樣好咩?轉車同鰂魚涌一樣時間
唔知你去過九龍塘北面大堂通道未?近排裝修過晒,光好多已經係好好既改善
到紅磡,紅磡而家光幾多?以前幾暗?紅 ...
所以那個是九鐵的功
尖東站你想九鐵起到點呀
尖沙咀好難囉位再響地底起咁大座野架啦
而且起響東D咪可以囉D尖沙咀東部既客囉
起果陣鬼知有兩鐵合併咩
中環/香港轉車夠耐啦,兩個站來嘛
尖沙咀/尖東都係兩個站來
成班港鐵癡響度嘈嘈嘈,都唔知為乜
一有事實證明到港鐵服務差左,就不斷關發文關人
[ 本帖最後由 KZ9314 於 2008-12-31 05:11 PM 編輯 ]
睇下呢篇文啦,接受下事實啦,一日到黑標籤人地港鐵痴九鐵痴無用架
true, but is hong kong really that big to have 2 different metro companies to operate NT and downtown services separately? it's obviously much more efficient to have one company running the whole metro network in hong kong. it'd have made sense if KCR operates in a way similar to 'national rail' in other countries which connects directly to mainland city with fewer stops in town.
if you look at london and new york, all the metro lines are managed under one company and it's much easier for tourists to navigate around. before the 2 companies are merged, it's very difficult for foreigners to understand the 2 separate systems when they don't even show each other's route maps apart from interchange stations. now that the two are merged, it makes hong kong a lot easier to navigate around especially when we call ourselves asia's world city.
in fact, i find it very difficult to agree with KCR's services. i understand a lot of the forumers' concern over the discount schemes kcr introduced for the customers and it's disappointing that MTR decided to discontinue them. but there're a lot of things which KCR simply lags behind MTR:
1) condition of stations (especially on East Rail)
all the stations along east rail are horrible... they're lack of maintenance and the toilets stink so badly. hung hom station for instance was a great piece of architecture when it's first opened (designed by norman foster, same architect as HKIA) and it simply turned into a pretty run-down station after 10 years of operation. there's no effort in upkeeping the floors, ceilings and carrying out routine maintenance works to it. other stations like mongkok, shatin are all in really shabby condition and kcr seems to think they can just get away with leaving them like temporary structures.
some may argue that the West Rail stations and MOS Rail stations are in better condition but they're relatively new so it's hard to judge on the ageing problem of the stations.
2) signage
the KCR systems have conflcting and inconsistent signages and again, they don't seem to care. East Rail has a completely different signage format to West Rail and even within East Rail, ETST station is different from the rest. i understand they're newer stations but it doesn't necessarily give them excuses for updating the signage of the older stations. it just makes again tourists very difficult to navigate round. it's fine for us but is it good for people who're not familiar with the system?
3) improvement works
PSDs are retrofitted to older underground MTR stations and now will be installed in the overground stations for passenger safety. but KCR which's only operating one line before the opening of West Rail and MOS Rail never even considered that.
im actually very happy to see after the merger, MTR's constantly making improvements to these old stations and facilities which are in need of repair. the new colour scheme in the ERL stations is a great success which will be followed by complete overhaul of the stations in a few years' time. hung hom station's also improved hugely with new lighting system and also the new Light Rail refurbishment looks great.
MTR's clearly more internationally recognized than KCR. look at the number of consultancy services they offer and you can tell the difference. obviously it's because other countries appreciate and praise MTR's success in operating hong kong's metro that's why they're getting them to review/operate their network. good examples including beijing's new line, london overground.
[ 本帖最後由 bananasims 於 2008-12-31 05:10 PM 編輯 ]
原帖由 bananasims 於 2008-12-31 05:09 PM 發表 
紅磡翻新工程係九鐵,不過最後搞到乜野樣?外面就靚,入面就嗌救命
睇下呢篇文啦,接受下事實啦,一日到黑標籤人地港鐵痴九鐵痴無用架
http://bvehk.net/viewthread.php?tid=9632&page=6#pid79325
反而宜家九鐵響月台牆身開始裝焗漆板,但被港鐵的花紙阻住

仲有九鐵買嗰啲焗漆版一向都唔可以留好耐,荃灣西啲焗漆版有啲已經爛爛地;九龍塘南面大堂 D 出口(新起的)、南面大堂轉車通道既焗漆版又係爛晒。焗漆版中間啲膠又甩晒出黎,都唔知點解咁鬼化學。
[ 本帖最後由 bananasims 於 2008-12-31 05:20 PM 編輯 ]
原帖由 bananasims 於 2008-12-31 05:09 PM 發表 
紅磡翻新工程係九鐵,不過最後搞到乜野樣?外面就靚,入面就嗌救命
睇下呢篇文啦,接受下事實啦,一日到黑標籤人地港鐵痴九鐵痴無用架
http://bvehk.net/viewthread.php?tid=9632&page=6#pid79325
sign唔同又如何, 唔通成日都要浪費去換牌咩, 大家睇得明咪得law
一個城市得一個metro公司?? 咁東京都廿三區呢? 人地有兩間metro公司, 仲要有JR同埋其他私鐵wor
有關幕門問題, 唔好唔記得兩間鐵路公司一直都唔肯係舊既地面站裝幕門, 地鐵公司都係因為太多人要求, 先逼住係舊地底站裝幕門, 仲要乘機收多每位乘客每程$0.1 所以此點係不成立
sign唔同又如何, 唔通成日都要浪費去換牌咩, 大家睇得明咪得law
一個城市得一個metro公司?? 咁東京都廿三區呢? 人地有兩間metro公司, 仲要有JR同埋其他私鐵wor
有關幕門問題, 唔好唔記得兩間鐵路公司一直都唔肯係舊既地面站裝幕門, 地鐵公司都係因為太多人要求, 先逼住係舊地底站裝幕門, 仲要乘機收多每位乘客每程$0.1 所以此點係不成立

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